Praise God for Kevin DeYoung and Ted Kluck!
We hope you will read this book with an open mind, considering what the Bible says about the importance of the church as organism AND organization, as a community AND an institution, as a living entity with relationships AND rules. (pg 16)
According to some disgruntled Christians, the church as we know it is an unbiblical, historical accident at best and a capitulation to paganism at worst. All that we think of as “church” – sermons, buildings, pastors, liturgy, offerings, choirs, and just about anything else you want to mention – are the result of the church falling from its pristine state in the first century into the syncretistic, over-institutionalized religion that now passes for Christianity.
I think he's referring to guys like Frank Viola and George Barna... don't you?
I don’t mean the “church” that consists of three guys drinking pumpkin spiced lattes at Starbucks talking about spirituality of the Violent Femmes and why Sex and the City is really profound. I mean the local church that meets – where you want it to meet – but exults in the cross of Christ; sings songs to a holy and loving God; has church officers, good preaching, celebrates the sacraments, exercises discipline; and takes an offering. This is the church that combines freedom and form in corporate worship, has old people and young, artsy types and NASCAR junkies, seekers and stalwarts, and probably has bulletins and by-laws. (pg 19)
When I read this last part I smiled. I was only 19 pages in but I was loving it! Then DeYoung and Kluck come out swinging with the book clearly in sight.
The arguments in Pagan Christianity are grossly overstated. On several occasions as I read Viola’s claims I thought, “You would be fine if you stopped right now and made the point that these things [pulpits, stained glass, robes, etc.] don’t have to be in the church, but then you go and try to prove that they can’t.” There may be Christians who think church can’t exist without pews. For them, Viola’s book may be a needed antidote. But just because pews come later in the church’s history, or even if pagans used them first, doesn’t make them unchristian. If you don’t like pews, fine. But they’re just benches. Can we not have hinges on our church doors if a nonChristian invented them? (pg 118)
It's a good point. Can we not have hinges on our church doors if a nonChristian invented them. :)
Viola makes some valid points. Christians can be obsessed with buildings, wasting lots of time and money on overexpanding facilities. We do sometimes equate a building with the church, when the people are what matter... I don’t think the ground is any holier inside the church than out. So I’m happy for Viola and others to correct mistaken notions some people may have about the importance of church buildings. BUT Viola overstates his case. He makes too much of the fact that early Christians met in homes... The Christians met in homes for 300 years because their faith was illegal. They didn’t have anywhere else to meet, which is why buildings starting popping up after Constantine
Viola is right to quote John Newton when he said “Let not him who worships under steeple condemn him who worships under a chimney”. But should not the reverse also be true? Let not him who worships on couches in the living room condemn him who worships with pews, pulpits, stained glass and a fellowship hall. (pg 122)
Next they tackle the topic of church membership and "churchless Christianity".
Without church membership there’s not place for the important role of church discipline. – pg 162
Churchless Christianity makes about as much sense as a Christless church, and has just as much biblical warrant. John Stott’s assessment of evangelism in the book of Acts is right: The Lord “didn’t add them to the church without saving them, and he didn’t save them without adding them to the church. Salvation and church membership went together; they still do.” – pg 164
The Bible simply does not teach a leaderless church. Instead we see the apostles exercising great authority over the churches (e.g., 2 Cor. 13:1-4). We have pastors commanded to “exhort and rebuke with all authority” (Titus
Today’s sermon, according to Frank Viola, has “no root in Scripture,” was “borrowed from pagan culture”, and “detracts from the very purpose for which God designed the church gathering.”... [But] the sermon was not stolen from the pagans. It came from Judaism, which developed and refined the practice of exegesis and expositional preaching in the centuries leading up to Christ... The Levites were to teach
On the last page of the book they write something that was very encouraging to me and I hope it is to you.
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